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  Isn't that what they use to deter people from escaping prison?

  by dubstepped in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the title is what a person today told me as i was explaining the changes i've seen and made in fading from the watchtower.

  he got a smile on his face and asked that question about watch towers being manned with men in guns to prevent people from escaping prison.

  man, i never thought about it like that, but he nailed it with such a simple observation.

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  and if they don't get you with their 'guns', they'll get you with their blackmail! (you will lose your family if you don't stay!)
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  What started me on the path to waking up about the lies the WT teaches?

  by oppostate in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it was a simple question: isn't jesus my "mediator" if i put faith in him like the scriptures say?

  the research to that answer, from the w79 4/1 p. 31, was mind blowing.

  how dare they deny me a belief firmly stated in the scriptures?

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  Tho many inconsistencies were debated between my husband & I (mediator, the 2010 generation thing, the "we don't have enough funds to cover the assembly this weekend, then "Let's give $5,000 to the Society "Yaaaay" every single time... the weird & immoral things that are done, not corrected "in God's organization", ) but the real clincher??? 607...... No 607 = no 1914 = no 1919 = no nada.... = hasta la vista....
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  Lorenz Reibling gives interview about real estate

  by OrphanCrow in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  this interview was posted april 16, 2015 on youtube.

  lorenz reibling's replies to the reporter in argentina are in english.. lorenz reibling is intimately connected to the watchtower society and, according to some sources, is a jw himself.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3ssa-9yvii.

  so who is lorenz reibling?

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  Very interesting
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  Pre assembly video clip

  by InquiryMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the music is somewhat different than in traditional jw-video clips.. https://sammankomst.org/#/video/tirsdag.mp4/forberedelser%20-%20tisdag.

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  Did you see their drone? ........... they are watching! Haha!
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  Getting it out of my system, a VERY long introduction/outpouring..

  by adimmedlight in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  warning, novel ahead:.

  after a few months of lurking on this site, i've decided to take the plunge...i don't really care so much about introducing myself, but somehow there is some relief in the thought of getting my little story out there, just getting it out of my system.

  i am the oldest of 5 kids.

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  Dear Dimmed....

  So sorry for you, but happy you are now able to express yourself without fear... That's the way it should be, isn't it? People should be able to ask questions, get answers, make decisions... without guilt. After growing up as a witness (I too was the oldest of five, and was told "we are no longer celebrating birthdays or Christmas at five", dang!) and now at a very old age, I look back at the methods used to keep people believing, going, holding on....

  I describe it as a hamster wheel.... While you are on it, or "in", there is always something to DO, and no time for YOU.... no time to just "think", "breathe", relax or enjoy... Always going somewhere, never getting anywhere, right?

  You always feel guilty that you are not doing something else. Try to let yourself enjoy the moment... Make memories, and congratulate yourself when you do... You are only 23! Awesome! I was in my 50's!

  Build up your self esteem, meet new people, build new relationships, go places, experience "life".... and smile... oh yes, and dance.... definitely dance... ;-)

  Let us know how it goes! I also, am grateful for the people here, and other places who have given their time and energies to help us through these hard times, trying to find ourselves... But enjoy it, it is an adventure!

  Cha Ching!
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  WT October 15, 2015 - Don't believe Apostate Lies

  by Designer Stubble in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the last article in this new wt, shows me that the organization is dealing with much information that is damaging them.

  i am sure that the many recent lawsuits are being noticed by the r&f.. here are some gems from that article, titled the naive person believes every word.

  we must be very selective about what we consider worthy of our attention.

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  Dear Searcher.... You will NOT "know" until you "do"...... and only if you are able to talk yourself out of it.... "ooops, a mistake"..... Then, you will be watched, and every comment scrutinized... Even when I was "in".... you could be DF'd if the 'body' so desired...
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  Help finding video

  by Pubsinger in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  sorry everyone i keep asking for help.. there was a short video someone put up, it had letts saying 'we reject the claims of apostates that we cover up child abuse' and then it cuts to court footage of elders saying they were aware under oath, then cuts back to the same clip of letts saying the same thing.

  then more courtroom footage and back to letts saying it again.

  it was a great clip.

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  Thanks all for posting these.... So glad they exposed themselves publicly... forever on 'the web'!
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  Getting married when you are spiritually out

  by 1tMakesNoSence in

  1. social
  2. relationships

  i met this amazing girl about 6years ago at my local congregation.

  i was 100% in back then.

  about 3years ago i woke up spiritually and kept it undercover till a few months ago.. this girl is still very in (but she doesnt really do the things a reaaal jw should do.

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  OK, 1TmakesnoSence..... Were you raised in this? Even tho you have mentally gotten out, that doesn't mean she will ever be out in the same way that you are. Please, please, please do not do this to yourself.

  I have seen so many people 'leave' the witnesses, be DF'd, not want to be one, didn't 'really' believe it... but still? something in the back of their head kept saying "maybe the new order will come".... One guy was going to marry a 'worldly girl' (he had been out, DF'd for years) but couldn't... he worried, "could I really give her the life she needs?" He still thinks about going back BECAUSE he wants to visit his brother.... He just stinkin' wants to play golf with his elder brother... so he thinks, "Maybe I should get reinstated so I can play golf with my long lost brother." Shunning, family, losing life is very difficult for anyone to endure.

  Your girlfriend is still pretty young... she is still probably pretty close to her mom, right? What about her dad? sisters? brother? Family, shunning and ALL THAT ROT/ BLACKMAIL can change people.....it's hard.

  Give both of YOU a break... Who wants to fight for half of your married life of "what you will and won't do"? Marriage is hard enough when your both on the same page, right? Surprisingly, you may just find another person you love as much, if not MORE.... That has happened to people over and over also....

  Be fair to yourself, and her..... Maybe you could "call if off" for a year? then see where she stands... Let her decide without pressure... When anyone gets off the "hamster wheel" (no matter what it is) you can get a view of life from a different perspective.

  Take care, take time.... be fair to the both of you.
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  getting drivers licensene not same as getting baptized

  by poopie in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  if you get in an accident you will not be shunned by everyone in your family.

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  "okay mom, I know I'm only 11, but I am baptized, so take me down to the DMV"
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  getting drivers licensene not same as getting baptized

  by poopie in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  if you get in an accident you will not be shunned by everyone in your family.

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  "mom, can I get married? I'm only 13, but I am baptized, and baptism is a greater responsibility then marriage right?"